Bring your own oil
When dealing with the Arts, Media and Engineering program, do not expect a well oiled machine. Being that it is a fairly new program, that in itself is to be expected, but this surprised even me... the following are summarized excerpts from an e-mail conversation I had last night:
(me)
Dear [AME advisors],
After finalizing my schedule I have decided to take the following two classes - [class 1] and [class 2]. I would like to take 6 AME research credits in addition to this, for which (as I understand) I need permission from my two advisors.
(AME advisor)
Please do not register for [class 1] - AME concentration students are not allowed to have cse 598 classes count towards graduation. So, you can take the class, but this won't count.
Regarding research - you cannot take these credits unless you form a doctoral dissertation committee.
(me)
Hmm... OK that is really confusing, because [class 1] is listed explicitly on the AME's Ph. D. program of study, and is also on my preliminary program of study that you signed. [class 2] is also a 598 class.
[other student] asked [other AME person] about taking AME research credits and she told him that it is not necessary to have a doctoral committee formed, but it does require approval from both advisors.
Can we meet tomorrow sometime other than between 11:20 and 1:30?
(AME advisor)
I realize that it is confusing - the rules for all cse students changed at the end of last semester. - this had a specific effect on AME concentration students being not allowed to count CSE 598 towards graduation. [this translates to "your tentative program of study that we approved is no good any more, and none of the classes you are taking this semester count towards your degree. we just haven't told you about it."]
Come by at 11:30am tomorrow and we can talk more.
(me)
Good to know...
I have a class from 11:40am to 1:10pm so I can't meet at that time...
So, I am now enjoying a very healthy dose of cynicism towards the world :-) It feels good to be a cynner...
(me)
Dear [AME advisors],
After finalizing my schedule I have decided to take the following two classes - [class 1] and [class 2]. I would like to take 6 AME research credits in addition to this, for which (as I understand) I need permission from my two advisors.
(AME advisor)
Please do not register for [class 1] - AME concentration students are not allowed to have cse 598 classes count towards graduation. So, you can take the class, but this won't count.
Regarding research - you cannot take these credits unless you form a doctoral dissertation committee.
(me)
Hmm... OK that is really confusing, because [class 1] is listed explicitly on the AME's Ph. D. program of study, and is also on my preliminary program of study that you signed. [class 2] is also a 598 class.
[other student] asked [other AME person] about taking AME research credits and she told him that it is not necessary to have a doctoral committee formed, but it does require approval from both advisors.
Can we meet tomorrow sometime other than between 11:20 and 1:30?
(AME advisor)
I realize that it is confusing - the rules for all cse students changed at the end of last semester. - this had a specific effect on AME concentration students being not allowed to count CSE 598 towards graduation. [this translates to "your tentative program of study that we approved is no good any more, and none of the classes you are taking this semester count towards your degree. we just haven't told you about it."]
Come by at 11:30am tomorrow and we can talk more.
(me)
Good to know...
I have a class from 11:40am to 1:10pm so I can't meet at that time...
So, I am now enjoying a very healthy dose of cynicism towards the world :-) It feels good to be a cynner...
posted by Stjepan at 7:13 AM
3 Comments:
Actaally it`s normal. The PhD community is made of the people that know how good they are and how right they are thou usually nobody understand them. To make sure that no normal people ever make it they just have to do the things the way they think it`s the best (the way no normal man can understand). The fact you have this little problem shows you are not ready to get your degree. But we are all prowd of you anyway.
Hmm... that sounds very sensible. Consequently, I have no idea who you are... :-)
When I wrote this post, I was pretty upset because I had about 1 day to form my research committee and register for research credits, otherwise I would waste a whole semester. Hence, the post sounds pretty harsh towards the AME Program... I should say that the AME Program is really a place with great potential, wonderful people, and that they actually treat me very nicely. As I mention in my recent post, it is starting to feel like family...
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